the response to any policy problem is better propaganda. and unfortunately, i think this was an illustration of that phenomenon. >> but is it better propaganda get jobs, job growth is down, we need to spend money, and they're not doing it? >> he won in 2012 even with a terrible economy. so it didn't, you know, it didn't seem to -- running bad policies didn't seem to prevent him from getting reelected. >> and the people in positions of power, they're basically doing okay. i mean, the stock market's up, corporate profits are at near-record highs. so, you know, for the people in power, they're doing fine. i'm not saying that they're all, you know, like, evildoers who want people to suffer. but, you know, i've been, you know, i'm sure you could turn on the news any day of the week and you'll hear a roundtable like this, you won't be there, i won't be there, yves won't be there. and they'll go, "look, we just have to get through a tough time." and invariably the people at the table aren't experiencing a tough time. so it's saying, you know, "those tens of millions of people that are either unemployed or partially employed, haven't had a wage increase in years, they're going to have to get through tough times."